+24 armor? - Guild Wars Forums

iridescentfyre · Jan 27, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

I've noticed that there's a significant number of skills that give exactly +24 armor that doesn't scale with attribute investment.

These include:
[skill]Disciplined Stance[/skill][skill]Defensive Stance[/skill][skill]Conviction[/skill][skill]"Shields Up!"[/skill]

+40 armor, as I recall, should be roughly half damage, so +20 should be 1/4 less damage. On top of that, armor bonuses from skills only stack to +25. This makes +24 seem like a very random, arbitrary number. Anyway, does anyone know if 24 is somehow a "magic number" in the Guild Wars armor calculations? Why would Anet have chosen it over and over again for skills from Prophecies all the way to Eye of the North?

Songbringer · Jan 27, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

the guy who designed the defense skill....his lucky number=24? lol no idea

Proff · Jan 27, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

The only thing I can think of is shields cause they have an ar of 16.

This should help with the numbers: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Armor_rating

Dante the Warlord · Jan 27, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

24 is 42 flipped! Since 42 is the Answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything... So...yea

jk

Yea i bet it just a random number

anonymous · Jan 27, 2008, 11:13 PM // 23:13

+24 is 1/3rd damage. So 100 damage will deal 66.

T1Cybernetic · Jan 28, 2008, 10:39 AM // 10:39

+24 seems like it was chosen for a reason to me too but i didnt want to be the first to ask

although i never really thought that it could have been a lucky number or something along those lines

i suppose we will never know unless someone shoots a message to support or something.

Pyro maniac · Jan 28, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41

+40 AL multiplies by 1/2
+24 AL multiplies by 2/3

150 damage fireball on 60 AL = 150 damage
150 damage fireball on 100 AL = 75 damage
150 damage fireball on 84 AL = 100 damage

Crom The Pale · Jan 28, 2008, 02:15 PM // 14:15

Orriginally armor stacked, so there was no reason to pick 24 other than when you combined it with a shield you get an even number.

Now that the limit is 25, 24armor does seam like a strange number to have.

Tha Dukk · Jan 28, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymous

+24 is 1/3rd damage. So 100 damage will deal 66.

he answered the question... some skills give a temporary 30% dmg reduction. what's so odd about that?

MagmaRed · Jan 28, 2008, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Orriginally armor stacked, so there was no reason to pick 24 other than when you combined it with a shield you get an even number.

Now that the limit is 25, 24armor does seam like a strange number to have.

Shields don't contribute to the armor involved in the +25 max. You can have +16 from your shield, and still recieve +25 from a skill or spell. That would provide you with +41 if you had both, since the shield does not factor into the max allowed.

iridescentfyre · Jan 28, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Orriginally armor stacked, so there was no reason to pick 24 other than when you combined it with a shield you get an even number.

Only skills that grant armor bonuses are affected by the armor stacking cap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymous

+24 is 1/3rd damage. So 100 damage will deal 66.

Hmmm, I think you're right, actually. I knew before I posted that 24 armor is roughly equal to 33% damage reduction, but I didn't think it was precisely that much. The link Proff gave seems to indicate that 84 armor (60 + 24) would have a damage multiplier of about 0.66.

Fried Tech · Jan 28, 2008, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

24 is 42 flipped! Since 42 is the Answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything... So...yea

jk

Yea i bet it just a random number

So long and thanks for all the fish

Jan 27, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17	#1
iridescentfyre Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: W/	+24 armor? I've noticed that there's a significant number of skills that give exactly +24 armor that doesn't scale with attribute investment. These include: [skill]Disciplined Stance[/skill][skill]Defensive Stance[/skill][skill]Conviction[/skill][skill]"Shields Up!"[/skill] +40 armor, as I recall, should be roughly half damage, so +20 should be 1/4 less damage. On top of that, armor bonuses from skills only stack to +25. This makes +24 seem like a very random, arbitrary number. Anyway, does anyone know if 24 is somehow a "magic number" in the Guild Wars armor calculations? Why would Anet have chosen it over and over again for skills from Prophecies all the way to Eye of the North?

Jan 27, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25	#3
Proff Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2007	The only thing I can think of is shields cause they have an ar of 16. This should help with the numbers: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Armor_rating Last edited by Proff; Jan 27, 2008 at 09:29 PM // 21:29..

Jan 27, 2008, 11:13 PM // 23:13	#5
anonymous Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006	+24 is 1/3rd damage. So 100 damage will deal 66. Last edited by anonymous; Jan 27, 2008 at 11:19 PM // 23:19..

Jan 27, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23	#2
Songbringer Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EastCoast Profession: E/Me	the guy who designed the defense skill....his lucky number=24? lol no idea

Jan 27, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22	#4
Dante the Warlord Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/R	24 is 42 flipped! Since 42 is the Answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything... So...yea jk Yea i bet it just a random number

Jan 28, 2008, 10:39 AM // 10:39	#6
T1Cybernetic Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth Guild: Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg] Profession: N/	+24 seems like it was chosen for a reason to me too but i didnt want to be the first to ask although i never really thought that it could have been a lucky number or something along those lines i suppose we will never know unless someone shoots a message to support or something.

Jan 28, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41	#7
Pyro maniac Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	+40 AL multiplies by 1/2 +24 AL multiplies by 2/3 150 damage fireball on 60 AL = 150 damage 150 damage fireball on 100 AL = 75 damage 150 damage fireball on 84 AL = 100 damage

Jan 28, 2008, 02:15 PM // 14:15	#8
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	Orriginally armor stacked, so there was no reason to pick 24 other than when you combined it with a shield you get an even number. Now that the limit is 25, 24armor does seam like a strange number to have.